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Pro-Life Incrementalism - Why Christians Should Abandon it.

11/9/2019

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​Why Christians Should Abandon IncrementalismIntroduction
Thank you for taking the time to examine this important subject. This paper is primarily on the subject of Incrementalism. It could be expanded on far more deeply and many have done so. Yet I believe what I have written here is sufficient to make a biblically and logically consistent case against it. I write this with strong desire to unify under a biblical standard to fight abortion. I have no desire to fight Christians. I honestly pray readers believe this.

If it were a minor secondary issue I surely would not have taken the time to dedicate myself to the biblical, social, and legal study of this issue as I have. I have done so because abortion is a life and death issue. How we address it is a thoroughly biblical issue of great importance.

Abortion is the holocaust we are living in now and sadly so few are fighting against it in any significant way. What is even more sad and frustrating is that most of those who are fighting against it are doing so in an unbiblical way. By God’s grace this is changing and I pray my readers here will come to be a part of that change to the glory of God and for the good of people’s souls and babies lives.

How invested are you in this fight?
Maybe you are now where I was a few years back. As an American Evangelical I knew abortion was sin and murder and believed the only view any Christian could hold was a Pro-Life one. You know, Christian, Pro-Life, and Republican. There really isn’t any other options right? I was to support and promote Pro-Life groups, politicians, and legislation proposed and promoted by the Church and the Pro-Life movement in general. Maybe sometimes even give money to pregnancy centers, and hold a sign at a yearly “Life Chain.”

Or maybe, if you felt really “called”, you might go even further. You might actually join a local “Right to Life” or other Pro-Life group and maybe even attend big events and help lobby for Pro-Life legislation. Maybe even go to clinics and volunteer in other high stress areas.

But maybe you’re way deeper and more committed to the Pro-Life movement than I could even imagine. Maybe you’ve given decades to the fight and have forged strong bonds with lots of groups and individuals. Maybe you are even a leader on a local, regional, or even national level. You’ve worked hard to fight this battle in all the areas I listed above and some areas I know nothing about. Maybe you’re so invested that being part of the Pro-Life Movement is a big part of who you are.

In fact, if some “newbie” like me comes along and says basically, “You’re doing it wrong.”, it isn’t just annoying, it feels like an attack. And not just against ideas you hold or things you do, but rather an attack against you.
 
Please know, I do understand the feeling. We all have areas we feel we have some expertise or at least some experience in. When someone challenges us in those areas it “raises our hackles” sometimes. I know it does mine. Again please understand I am not doing this to annoy people or win arguments. I genuinely believe this issue is a serious biblical issue of life and death. This is not a personal attack on anyone. I love my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ! If I did not love you I wouldn’t bother trying to reach you. I consider you my friends and not my enemies. Please know this!

So friends what must we do when something like this takes place? We must face questions and accusations no matter who they are from, or even the attitude in which they are delivered, just like Jesus did. What I mean is that we need to meet them head on with the word of God. It is our only sure resource at all times. It is both the foundation and end of our reasoning.

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
2 Tim. 3:16-17    

So friends, as you read this you may get annoyed or even feel attacked. Again, please know that that is not my goal. I am presenting to you what I believe the Bible says about Incrementalism. If you feel that I am wrong I hope you agree that the proper way to address the issue is to engage me with scripture. Please do so. This is too important for anyone to simply say, “I just don’t see it.”, “I disagree”, etc.

We must not cast this issue aside as unimportant or dismiss arguments based on our instant reaction or even our years of experience in the Pro-Life movement. God’s glory, people’s eternal souls, and babies lives hang in the balance! We must do our due diligence here. Too much is at stake! So thank you again for reading this today!

On biblical hermeneutics
All scripture is God breathed and profitable for us in all ways. Since we as Christians affirm this truth of scripture we will never here question whether or not what it says is true. However, we must make sure to interpret it correctly.

As scripture varies from poetry to history to prophecy and more, we must be careful to exegete each text rather than eisegete it. In other words we must take from the text what God intends for us to take from it and not read into the text meanings God never intended.

First we must understand various issues regarding the text. We must understand the genre we are dealing with, covenantal guidelines, historical and geographical considerations, and of course the immediate context, etc.
In this study of Incrementalism we will be primarily focussing on the commands and laws of God and how we are to apply them today.

In short we will be left with more or less one of two possible ways to interpret the text before us. We must ask this question: Is this text giving a clear command to obey or a guiding principle to apply to a range of scenarios?

There is no doubt that every command of God will always present at least a guiding principle. No command of God is irrelevant as all are expressions of His immutable perfection and glory. For

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.”
Heb. 13:8

I state from the outset that I believe there is no command from God in scripture that is  subject to any man’s or any group of men(and/or women’s) opinion. Let alone that anyone ever had, has now, or ever will have the right and authority to nullify, amend, and/or change His commands. I hope you would agree with me.

Yet sadly for many years I never even thought about Incrementalism at all. Let alone thought about it being wrong. Honestly I hadn’t even heard of the term! I am ashamed to admit I did not even consider holding my Pro-Life convictions about baby murder up to the light of scripture. Instead I placed my trust on the shifting yet comfortable and familiar sands of American Evangelicalism.

It is my sincere prayer and hope that God would guide me in my examination of Incrementalism and only base my judgments of it on sound biblical principles. I also pray that my Christian friends and neighbors would receive grace to do likewise.

I simply ask that no matter how long or how firmly you may have held your personal convictions regarding Incrementalism, that you would join me in examining them in the light of scripture, and repent of them if God’s word makes clear that those convictions are unbiblical. Let’s start that work now.  

Incrementalism Explained
Incrementalism as understood here can be stated in this way:
Incrementalism is choosing to obey and/or call for obedience to a clear law and/or command of God piece by piece and/or over time, rather than in totality and/or immediately.

To start I should say I no longer identify as a “Pro-Lifer”. I cannot in good conscience align with the Pro-Life Movement. I also should be clear in saying that I believe there are many in the Pro-Life Movement that hold the same ideas I have regarding the bad fruit that have come out of the PLM yet choose to keep the “Pro-Lifer” label. I hope we can agree the label we identify with while important, is not all important. What we believe and why we do is.

I now identify as an Abolitionist. Another term could be Kingdom Driven Christian Biblical Immediatist. Abolitionist just kind of rolls off the tongue easier!

I realize that sometimes people get confused when an Abolitionist says Incrementalism is sinful and unbiblical. Let me try to give a helpful word picture.

Let’s look at abortion in the United States like an orchard full of fifty rotten fruit trees. The orchard owner has given us all the command, “Cut down the trees, throw them in the fire and burn them.” There are fifty teams of workers each with a tree to take care of.

Now the incrementalist would have each team figure out which are the easiest limbs to remove first. Order them to start taking out whichever ones they can do so without backlash from those who like the rotten trees. In short the incrementalist says they desire to kill the trees over time, but for all intents and purposes only prunes the trees.

They also must admit that some of the folks on their teams believe that there are at least a couple reasons for the trees to not be totally cut down. In short many in the incrementalist camp don’t even want to obey the command to cut down the tree and burn it.

Now undoubtedly some small amount of rotten fruit gets cut off in the pruning. Incrementalists make sure to light big bonfires to burn the leaves and branches that come down through their pruning. It gives a feeling of progress.

Now the immediatist on the other hand would give each team a set of axes and have them lay each axe to the root of the trees. Mind you they are big hard trees that have been pruned by incrementalists and continually fed and fertilized by others who work in the orchard who love the trees. So, victory seems far off and celebrations are slim to nonexistent. But they keep obediently seeking to cut down the trees and burn them as the orchard owner commanded.

We must see this key point as well. As we understand that due to different governments and their jurisdictions any law passed will have an incremental facet to it. Meaning we cannot ever expect to enact a law that spans all of creation. Only God can do this. And providentially He has. Our job is to demand implementation of His laws in the jurisdictions in which we reside, in the ways we have been granted to do so to His glory.

For example, an Oregonian like myself demanding that my state representatives and executives write and enforce laws that abolish and criminalize abortion in my state is a biblically just demand as a citizen in the United States of America and the State of Oregon. I am not involved in sinful Incrementalism because my demand does not have any direct effect on the representatives of other states.

Also, as a citizen of the United States it is a biblically just that I demand that my U.S. Representatives and the U.S. President abolish and criminalize abortion. It is not sinful Incrementalism because my demand has no direct effect on the Chinese government and their abortion laws.
   
Now as members of the Church we have an obligation to demand that abortion be abolished and criminalized across all man made jurisdictions. We are part of His eternal Kingdom and there is no boundary to God’s prophetic commands. Sadly the Church has been apathetic in its being a prophetic voice from pulpits and in society at large on this issue. May God bring repentance and zeal to His Church in this area for the advance of His Kingdom!
       
There are many other aspects to discuss about the differences between the Pro-Life movement and the modern Abolitionist movement. However, as I said before this paper focuses primarily on Incrementalism. Since Incrementalism in our discussion here is focussed primarily on how it relates to law, it’s helpful to speak about the nature of law and commands as well.

Incrementalism and the Law
It is important I make clear from the beginning that most if not all commands and laws, whether stated positively or negatively, have both explicit and implicit factors involved.

For example, a state law may say: “It is illegal to purchase alcohol under 21 years of age.” This law gives its command negatively. It explicitly forbids purchasing alcohol for persons under 21 years of age. However, it also therefore implicitly allows those persons over 21 years of age to purchase alcohol legally.

The following two sentences make a statement that exemplifies this truth about state law as it pertains to alcohol.

“Joe you are only 20 years old, so it is illegal for you to buy alcohol. When you turn 21 in July it will then be legal for you to buy alcohol.”

These two sentences show the clear relation between both the explicit and implicit facets of law. These facets of law are important for us to understand as we go about writing, supporting, promoting, or even voting for certain laws.  

We as Christians also must affirm that all law is subservient to God’s law. It can be no more succinctly or clearly put than when Peter and John said: “We must obey God rather than men.” Act. 5:29 In other words, if man’s law goes against God’s law, man’s law is not law at all. We are not to follow it but oppose it. Our country’s founders and the framers of our constitution understood this. We must understand this as well.
 
It is important to note that the United States founders and framers of the U.S. Constitution were probably most influenced in the founding of our laws by the legal expertise of the 18th century jurist and judge, Sir William Blackstone.

In fact, it is not a stretch to say that Blackstone was very, if not the most influential source for the legal framing of our Constitution and U.S. law going forward for well over a century after our founding. Blackstone makes clear the status of all men’s laws when he stated:

“No enactment of man can be considered law unless it conforms to the law of God.”
  • Sir William Blackstone

Let us be sure to remember these truths as we examine Incrementalism and the Incremental laws of the Pro-Life movement.

Incrementalism and the Word of God
In laying out a sound hermeneutical case against Incrementalism I will use the following format. I will present scriptural commands, determine whether or not we should interpret the command(s) as directly for us today or see them as a guiding principle. Having done that I’ll then present the logical conclusions we should draw from the command.

Scripture 1: “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
1 Cor. 10:31

Is this a direct command or a guiding principle? It may seem to need no elaboration.

Yet for the sake of hermeneutical precision, let’s examine this vital command in light of certain important principles.

First, this is a command in an epistle addressed to believers in the New Covenant(NC). We are also believers in the NC. Second, there is nothing ambiguous or confusing about the sentence structure. Third, there is nothing about the surrounding chapter or book about this specific command that would make us believe its application was limited to that specific time and/or region. Fourth, the command to glorify God in all we do is understood universally in Christianity throughout history as an inarguable obligation of all people. It is clearly taught throughout scripture in too many places to list.

This is therefore a direct command. As such we as Christians should seek to believe and act in all ways in such a manner that we glorify God in what we believe, say, and do.

So let the glory of God be our guiding principle as we examine commands and laws of God and how they relate to Incrementalism.    
     
These following scriptures command us either to do something, abstain from doing something, or warn us of consequences for doing or not doing something. First I will address the main command or law directed at the perpetrators and/or accessories to the crime of abortion.

Scripture 2: “You shall not murder.” Ex.20:13

Is this a direct command or guiding principle? It is a command given under the Old Covenant(OC) directly to the people of Israel. Next we need to see if this law applies to us as NC believers and more so to unregenerate society at large today.

First let’s see if it applies to us as NC believers. Well no and yes. In short we are not under the law given to Israel carved in stone. But James would say we are under a greater, “Royal law”. That royal law we are under now encompasses all aspects of God’s moral law.

So, since we are commanded by Christ to love our neighbors as ourselves(Mrk. 12:31) and we know that loving someone totally eliminates the possibility of murdering them, we are still bound to the principle of that Mosaic law.

In fact the law of love we now reside under in grace is even stricter. As Jesus made clear, the ten commandments gave the negative restriction against murdering. Yet the eternal precept for us under the royal law is the positive command to love our neighbors, even neighbors we call “enemies”. Which is why Jesus said to hate our neighbor is murder in the heart(Mat. 5:21-22).

Now, the unregenerate man or woman is also not directly under the letter of the Mosaic law given to Israel. However, they are subject to the law written on their hearts, the conscience that either convicts or comforts the heart of all humanity(Rom. 2:12-15).

So, it is safe to say(at least in some sense) that no one is directly under the Mosaic law. Yet God’s moral law, whether written on tablets of stone or on the heart, clearly covers not murdering people in both the OC and NC. For both Jews and Gentiles. Unregenerate sinners and born again saints. Let no one think we are antinomians. Christ did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it(Mat. 5:17).

Scripture 3: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Mark 12:31

Is this is a direct command or guiding principle? This is a direct command from Jesus. It was simply a restatement of OC law. Yet Jesus made it clear that this command was to be applicable to everyone. He makes this clear in that when He is questioned by a scribe as to who is his neighbor, He uses an example of someone despised by the Jews, a Samaritan. In short if a Samaritan loves his neighbor in such a way, so should the inquiring scribe and surely so should we as Spirit filled NC believers.

As we spoke above about this verse briefly, the obvious implicit command here is that we are not to murder. Yet, this command is explicit and commands us to love our neighbors. Not just in any light hearted manner either. But we are to love them as we love ourselves!
 

So, can we in good conscience and in light of scripture actually say that our support of incremental laws that abandon some babies to slaughter at the whims of their mothers is loving our neighbors as ourselves? Unless we believe that there is some instances when we believe it is loving for someone to choose to murder us, then the answer is an emphatic NO!

Scripture 4: “If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.” Jam. 2:8-9

Is this a direct command or a guiding principle? This is clearly a guiding principle. More so it is a stinging indictment against Incrementalism. One of the direct results of Incrementalism is the sin of “partiality”, condemned in scripture here.

As this is an epistle in the NC written to Christians this has direct application to us. We are told very clearly that to show partiality is to make us transgressors of God’s law.

There is no way to wiggle out of it. The double edged facets of the law make it clear that by showing partiality to some babies we at the very least implicitly condemn certain babies to death with any incremental legislation. We must stop this!  

Scripture 5: “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.” Deut. 24:16

Is this a direct command or a guiding principle? This command has its origin in the OC. It is found in an area in Deuteronomy where God is listing other various laws for the people of Israel.

Now while this is clearly directed at Israel the very structure of the command is clear that it is tied to a direct reflection of God’s character. In short it is about justice. It is unjust to punish someone for the sins of another. Unless of course the substitute for the punishment willingly takes the punishment in the perpetrator’s place. Praise God for that!

So while this command is directed at Israel it is applicable to all governments across both the OC and the NC.

Therefore, no baby in the womb should be allowed to be murdered for the sin of the father. In other words, there is no biblically justified reason to allow for a “rape or incest exception” in any law regarding abortion. When we vote for laws and/or politicians that promote legislation that contains rape or incest exceptions we are defying God’s command. I don’t see how we can make excuses for supporting such legislation or legislators. Surely, “It’s the best we thought we could do.” will not hold up against God’s clear commands.  

Scripture 5: “Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.” Prv. 24:11  

Is this a direct command or a guiding principle? This command has its origin in the OC and is part of the wisdom literature. As it is wisdom from God and His wisdom is eternal we can be sure that this is applicable to us today as well in the NC.

However, this verse does require some interpretive work. We see in scripture that there are valid reasons for some to be, “taken away to death” or to be “stumbling to the slaughter”. Genesis 9:6 makes it clear that in God’s eyes one who murders a human being should face the death penalty. So, just taking this verse literally without any other biblical context could lead to sinful actions.

For example, if someone were to believe that this verse forbade the taking of any human life and therefore broke a death row inmate out of prison, that would be clear evidence of someone working from a self imposed eisegetical hermeneutic not intended by the text.

The verse also requires that we not too narrowly define terms to fit our common use of the language. For example, when we think of being told to, “hold back” someone we most often think in the physical sense of grabbing someone to stop their progress. While this is a correct idea here it is not exclusively correct. We can also arrest someone’s motions with verbal commands, entreaties to reason, etc.

While we never want to read meaning into a text that isn’t there, we must also refrain from rejecting clearly intended principles to be derived from a text. When we want to avoid doing what is right we may try to find the narrowest reading of a command as possible.

So, it is clear that this passage of scripture is applicable to us today. It has no restrictive language in the verse. The Bible as a whole gives us restrictions to consider as regards people deserving of death justly. However, other than those instances this verse and again, the Bible as a whole is quite clear that we are to be a people that seek to rescue the perishing.

Therefore we must affirm that this text is therefore applicable to unborn babies. In acknowledging this we must also acknowledge that there is no biblical exception here or elsewhere regarding which babies we will seek to save and which we will abandon to the slaughter.

Scripture 6: “Woe to those who decree iniquitous decrees, and the writers who keep writing oppression, to turn aside the needy from justice and to rob the poor of my people of their right, that widows may be their spoil, and that they may make the fatherless their prey!” Isa. 10:1-2

Is this a direct command or guiding principle? Well first we can see that it is not a direct command at all. It is a guiding principle for either OC or NC. Yet it is clearly something any wise person will heed as a command. As no wise person wants to suffer a “woe” from God Almighty!

As to the direct OC principle to Israel’s leaders it is this, God is warning about “woe” to come on any ruler who writes an iniquitous or sinful decree against God’s people. So this would apply directly to wicked rulers of Israel and Judah.

In fact the woe to come on them for their wickedness was the Assyrians God used as His tool for discipline. But we must determine now how this principle applies to us today.

The first question we must ask is this: Do God’s commands and warnings to Israel(or any specific nation for that matter) reveal any principles for other nations to follow? The simple answer is YES! We have a clear word from God as regards the actions of any nation directly from the wisdom literature here:

“Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.” Prov. 14:34

There is no ambiguity in that warning, “any people” is pretty clear. We fall in the “any” category.

See this fearful statement for all nations that stand in defiance to God’s commands and laws:

“The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God. For the needy shall not always be forgotten, and the hope of the poor shall not perish forever. Arise, O LORD! Let not man prevail; let the nations be judged before you! Put them in fear, O LORD! Let the nations know that they are but men! Selah” Psalm 9:17-20
 
We could go on but it is abundantly clear throughout scripture that all nations are subject to obey God’s commands and laws or suffer fearful judgment.

So now I’m going to specifically address how Isaiah 10:1-2 applies to us in the United States. It is important that I make that distinction because a Christian’s level of individual and national responsibility is based in some part by the government system under which God has called us to live and serve Him in.

Friends, we have been blessed with so much in the United States! But let us be humbled by this word from Jesus:
 
    “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.” Luke 12:48
 
In the United States we have been given “much”. We have been so blessed and in some ways truly cursed with a government, “of the people, by the people, for the people…”

We are citizens in a country with rights based on the U.S. Constitution. A constitution that relies heavily on God’s word and it’s eternal principles. We are not subjects under a worldly king or dictator, but citizens of a representative republic. We have rights and responsibilities.

Of the three branches of our government we citizens are most closely tied to the Legislative branch. The branch that writes our laws or “decrees”.

Do we not recognize that every time we check a voting box we are issuing our “yea” or “nay” for a certain decree? Do we see that every bill we write, promote, or even support is a “decree” carried forward by our hands and from our hearts and minds?  Woe on us if we write, promote, support, or even vote for those God would call iniquitous!

So, does Isaiah 10:1-2 apply to us? Yes. We are responsible for the decrees we have any part in bringing into being. From the least educated voter to the most educated legislator we all have blood on our hands.

We must remember what we addressed earlier regarding how laws are to be understood. When we implement any law we must remember that we are accountable for both the implicit and explicit facets of that law.

Therefore, when Pro-Life legislators, organizations, lobbyists, and we the people, write decrees we are making two clear legal statements.

For example(and these are all examples of real “Pro-Life” Incremental legislation), when we decree a negative explicit decree like: “No child in the womb over 20 weeks old can be aborted.” or “No child in the womb with a heartbeat can be aborted.” or “No child can be aborted due to race, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, or diagnosis or potential diagnosis of the fetus having Down syndrome or any other disability.”

It logically and legally follows that these negative explicit decrees also carry a positive implicit decree like: “Any child in the womb under 20 weeks old can be aborted.” or “Any child in the womb without a heartbeat can be aborted.” or “Any child in the womb can be aborted as long as it is not aborted due to race, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, or diagnosis or potential diagnosis of the fetus having Down syndrome or any other disability.”

So now friends, please understand this. Every decree that either explicitly or implicitly decrees that someone may murder a baby in the womb of a mother is beyond all shadow of a doubt an iniquitous decree as described here in Isa. 10:1-2. As such every Pro-Life law ever written is incremental and therefore either implicitly or explicitly violates the commandment of God, “You shall not murder.” Ex. 20:13.

Of course this should be enough proof for us as Christians. Yet even for the non believing person who denies God’s law, these decrees are actually unconstitutional as well. Remember Blackstone and the foundation of our U.S. Constitution. He said: 

“No enactment of man can be considered law unless it conforms to the law of God.”

It doesn’t matter what non Christians believe about our country or the nature of the founding of our laws. The history is there to study and ignorance is no excuse.

For the sake of brevity and due to the fact that I am not appealing to the U.S. Constitution but God’s word I will not here list applicable law. However, a basic reading of our fifth and fourteenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution make it clear that abortion is illegal according to U.S. law as well. Not to mention clear reiterations of the same across state constitutions and through statutes nationwide.

So, Christian friends when we take any part in these iniquitous incremental decrees, we find ourself not only defying God but even the foundational laws of this nation.

In no way can we glorify God in supporting, promoting, or even voting for such God dishonoring and Constitution disregarding iniquitous decrees.

Finally let us look at one more scripture reference. Honestly there are so many more we could cover as well. But this will suffice. It is in line with Isa. 10:1-2 and is even more frightful. It actually describes what God does to those people who take part in putting forth injustice.
 
Scripture 7: “Can wicked rulers be allied with you, those who frame injustice by statute? They band together against the life of the righteous and condemn the innocent to death. But the LORD has become my stronghold, and my God the rock of my refuge. He will bring back on them their iniquity and wipe them out for their wickedness; the LORD our God will wipe them out.” Psa. 94:20-23   
 
Is this a direct command or guiding principle? Again we see that this must be a guiding principle because it is given in the form of a warning and a judgment against those who write wicked laws. It starts as a rhetorical question that must be emphatically answered in the negative.

It is a warning for us to heed from God’s wisdom literature. It is applicable to all nations(Though Israel was forefront in the mind of the psalmist) as we detailed extensively above.

Here is the incredibly scary part. Knowing that God does still judge nations for their sins, especially bloodguilt. Also knowing that we are a nation whose rulers are appointed by us and as such the rulers in some real way ARE us. Therefore are we in danger of being counted as the “wicked rulers” spoken of here? That is a truly sobering question.

I am not going to eisegete this and say that this is saying every Pro-Life person supporting Incrementalism and the laws birthed from its philosophy are going to be wiped out by God for their parts in the holocaust. I am asking this.

Is it at least possible, considering what I’ve shown here from scripture and the logical outworking of how laws and commands work that we should at least be humbled and repentant for our parts in perpetuating this ongoing holocaust? For our compromising on God’s commands?
 

Is it wrong to think that the blood of the untold tens of millions of innocents that soak this nation to its depths surely stains many of us for our actions? Or even more so for our inaction and apathy?

It would be a whole other study but well worth doing it. Please examine the Doctrine of Bloodguiltiness. I will simply say this frightening statement here. If Abel’s blood cried out to God from the ground(Gen. 4:10), how loud is the cry of the tens of millions of babies whose blood has been crying out from this nation’s blood soaked soil for nearly half a century? Search for “Doctrine of bloodguiltiness Rusty Thomas” on YouTube and just watch any of his sermons on the topic for a powerful primer on the doctrine.

Friends, again remember Christ’s warning of those being given much having much required of them. We have so much as far as biblical scholarship and even just simple access that many of us must be worthy of a “severe beating”(Luk. 12:47) for our roles in this bloodletting. Surely very few are unworthy of at least a “light beating”(Luk. 12:48).

Please hear me. I understand that things I’ve said may truly have you upset. Please know I did not write this with the purpose to call into question your sincerity or to doubt your passion for babies lives or your commitment to God. I in no way think you are supporting these incremental laws because you could care less that they violate God’s commands or our constitution’s foundational truths. Nor do I believe that you take this stance intentionally saying, “And why not do evil that good may come?” Rom. 3:8

In fact I would honestly venture to guess that many of you know your Bible’s better than me and U.S. Law, and U.S. History better than me as well. Yet I believe you have not been spurred on by a fellow brother or sister(or many of them) to hold up the abortion issue and the Pro-Life Movement in light of that knowledge.

I’m writing this because a group of caring saints did so for me. I argued, kicked against the goads and made excuses for some time too. But they patiently and prayerfully stuck to scripture and reason and by God’s grace got the reasoning through my thick skull and proud heart.

I’m one of the thickest heads and proudest hearts there can be when I think I’m right and have a good argument. Yet as God was gracious to get me to remove the “log” that was in my eye, I pray He will use me to help some of you remove your relative “specks”. Again I’m not here to win an argument for winning sake. I’m here to bring unity in Christ by scripture.  
  

So friends, in light of what I’ve written here briefly from scripture, legal history, and from following logic, surely you must see that we can not walk this path any longer. If we do, and can not make an argument to do so that finds its foundation rooted in scripture, then it would seem we are indeed willing to do evil in the hopes that good may come. God grant that we do not do so!

Friends, we must repent and in love call others to do likewise. We must not let any feelings, reasonings, or relationships deter us from obeying God. His commands and principles are clear. Let’s move forward in obedience for the glory of God, the souls of men and babies lives.
 
So what should we do?
Repentance will be different for each individual. But it is undoubtedly necessary for all of us. It is part of the ongoing sanctifying work of God in us. But there are some definite practical steps that we all should agree on.

For many of us a first practical step can be an easy one. Many of us have done very little even in a meaningful Pro-Life fashion anyway. For many of us our activity has been little more than voting for whatever Pro-Life incremental legislation comes up on our ballots or signing petition initiatives presented to us.

So first, stop signing, promoting, and supporting unbiblical incremental legislation.

Next, we must also stop promoting and supporting Incrementalist politicians. If they will not support abolishing and criminalizing abortion as murder without exception as the Bible commands, then they must not receive anything from us except our prayers and our pleading that they repent and join us in obeying God and our constitution.

I should add the caveat that if you have been active in a certain politician’s camp you may face a harder route than those of us who simply voted for them. While we all should explain our reasons for repenting of our Incrementalism, for some this will be harder and take more time and effort.

Another easy step is to stop sending money to Pro-Life organizations promoting the incremental legislation. For example for years I donated the $100 limit allowable to “Oregon Right to Life PAC” to get back in a tax credit. However, when God convicted me to repent I stopped doing that.

This next step might get a little more difficult. This will actually require possible engagement rather than just disengagement. If you are part of any Pro-Life groups or organizations that support incrementalism with legislation or legislators, you need to do one of two things.

The easiest but still difficult route(depending how deeply involved you are) is to leave. This will probably require some engagement because you should give the folks there your biblical reason for leaving.

The second and really more difficult option is to remain part of the group and try to plead with those involved to join you in repentance. To try to bring them into alignment with biblical truth for the glory of God in their sanctification. It will be hard but it is biblical.

The hardest step is all about engagement. It is harder but oh so vital! It is getting involved in the fight in the small Gideon like army God is raising up in this nation and even Kingdom wide across the world.

For pastors and preachers it means the pulpit should be a vehicle to carry God’s truth forward in this fight.

For leaders of all types it will mean leading Christians into the battle for complete abortion abolition and criminalization in all the various areas they influence.

For everyone of us it means prayerfully engaging the individuals and groups in our circle of influence.


In short this battle must become a priority for all of us. While it is not the only social evil that has cropped up due to rebellion against God. It is by far the most deadly and widespread, socially accepted, and sadly church silenced evil of our day. It is a sin issue, a gospel issue, and a love our neighbor issue. We must engage! Please join us!

At the bottom of the page I will include a webpage where I have compiled several ministries with resources to get folks engaged in the fight in a biblical manner. Please check them out.

 
Can we win without Incrementalism?
I hope I am stating the obvious here but it is worth stating anyway. In short God does not see victory in the same way the world does. So let’s see what God shows us in His word about winning. In 1 Sam. 15:1-23 we see Samuel give King Saul a command from God to destroy the Amalekites and all they have. Here it is verbatim:
 
“Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”  
1 Sam. 15:2-3

 
Before I go on let me point out something very important here that we see elsewhere in scripture as well. God commands that everything and every person be destroyed. Yes, even “child and infant”. I only focus on these key words in light of Pro-Life goals versus God’s goals.

The Pro-Life Movement would have spared all the babies if not the women and children as well. God commanded all of their destruction. Why? Because the Amalekites as a people sought to hinder the God ordained establishment of Israel. In short Amalek stood opposed to God’s plan, people, and glory.

God’s glory and His purposes are the unquestionable righteous goals His people are always to strive to attain regardless of what seems right in our own eyes.

So what did King Saul do? Did he obey God completely? I’ll be brief. He did not. He did not obey God and only destroyed most of Amalek. He made excuses for why He did not kill everyone and destroy everything. He actually said he kept some animals and goods back for sacrifice. Even if this were true(and I have my doubts that it was)it would still have been sinful. Hear Samuel’s response.
 
“And Samuel said, “Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has also rejected you from being king.” 1 Sam. 15:22-23
 
Friends Saul was influenced by worldly wisdom and thought He knew better than to obey God’s clear command. Yes he was encouraged to disobey by men with their faulty counsel, and they were no doubt happy with his decision. In the world’s eyes it looked like a “win”. Yet because he took the path of sinful Incrementalism his presumption led to his ultimate downfall. Friends we must not follow any longer his example!

Let’s look at another example. In Exodus Moses is commanded by God to go and free Israel from Egypt. The command is simple.
 
“Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go in to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘Thus says the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, “Let my people go, that they may serve me.” Ex. 9:1
 
As I’m sure you know the story God had ordained the hard heart of Pharaoh and that He would glorify Himself over Pharaoh for all history to know.

All throughout the plagues Pharaoh tried to get Moses to compromise and make a deal with him contrary to God’s command. Pharaoh was hoping Moses would embrace reasonable Incrementalism. Moses would not.

In fact early on Moses obeying God led to even harsher treatment of Israel as Pharaoh refused to obey God’s command. This mistreatment by Pharaoh led the people to rebel against Moses and heavily discourage him. But God encouraged him and Moses remained faithful. Let’s look at one more shocking revelation from this story.

Moses never relented to any of Pharaoh’s compromise. This statement of his may stun us in light of the Pro-Life Movement’s willingness to compromise on the very life of children. Moses would not even do so for livestock!
 
“Then Pharaoh called Moses and said, “Go, serve the LORD; your little ones also may go with you; only let your flocks and your herds remain behind.” But Moses said, “You must also let us have sacrifices and burnt offerings, that we may sacrifice to the LORD our God. Our livestock also must go with us; not a hoof shall be left behind, for we must take of them to serve the LORD our God, and we do not know with what we must serve the LORD until we arrive there.”
Ex. 10:24-26

 
Any Pro-Life legislator or lobbyist and sadly myself for many years would have jumped on this type of incremental compromise for babies! But did Moses compromise? No! This one statement just blows me away! Moses said, “not a hoof shall be left behind”!

Do you understand the importance of this statement? It shows that Moses understood both the explicit and implicit facet of obeying a command or law. God had commanded that Pharaoh let the “people” go. He said nothing explicitly about any of the people’s possessions.

But Pharaoh and Moses also understood that the explicit command of God to let the people go implicitly commanded that all that belonged to them were to be released as well. Moses applied his sound logic to discern the implications of both God’s command and Pharaoh’s. He demanded of Pharaoh that Pharaoh obey both the explicit and implicit facets of God’s command without compromise.

Friend we have no less clear commands from God regarding murder and how to address it across history. The only primary thing we lack is an assurance that we will see abortion abolished in the United States prior to Christ’s return. But friends we do not need an assurance of winning by our standards to be faithful to obey God. Obedience is victory!

The Bible is filled with people who God uses to show us that before ultimate victory there may be many painful setbacks along the way. Look at Abraham, Daniel, Joseph, and the list goes on. But let’s finally look at Jesus.

Jesus from eternity past came to ultimately be slain(Rev. 13:8) and “lose” in the eyes of the world. His sheep were scattered as He the Shepherd was struck, just as He said(Mat. 26:31). Even in the eyes of His closest disciples His oft prophesied death and promised resurrection was ignored or misunderstood. So much so that at His return He rebukes them for their foolishness and lack of belief(Luk. 24:13-27)!

Jesus achieved no political victory. Even after His resurrection He set up no earthly Kingdom(Act. 1:6-7). He instead sent His disciples out to turn the “world upside down” with the gospel(Act. 17:6) and change it one heart at a time. He sent them to advance His everlasting Kingdom through evangelizing and discipling the nations(Mrk. 16:15, Mat. 28:18-20).

Along the way both the Bible and world history has shown that God’s victory can not always be understood by the world. For many victory has and still comes in the forms of suffering and even death. It comes also in the downfall and uprising of people, groups, movements, and even nations.

Yet at all times the Lord is moving, His Kingdom is advancing, and His name is being glorified by those who love Him. By His people the Church. People who understand that faithfulness is fruitfulness and obedience is victory!

Friends, to be an Abolitionist is not primarily about saving babies. Being an Abolitionist is about doing all that we can in accordance with His word for the glory of God.

Friends will you join us? Will you help us? We do not discount your knowledge, wisdom, or experience. We rejoice when any born again, Protestant member of the Body of Christ adds their God given gifts and strength to our numbers! We want unity not division!
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We long to move forward with you for the glory of God the Father, empowered by God the Holy Spirit guiding us by the inspired Word, to advance the Kingdom of God the Son, Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, our Savior, Redeemer, and Friend! Soli Deo Gloria!
 
Web Resource Page:
www.repentanceandbelief.com/abortion-evangelism.html
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A new and growing movement for god's glory in the abortion holocaust! #endabortionnow

5/7/2017

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SO WHAT'S END ABORTION NOW?
I'm glad you asked! End Abortion Now(EAN) is a movement spearheaded by Apologia Church in Tempe, Arizona. Pastor Jeff Durbin is the Pastor there whose sermon at a conference a couple years back, with an amazing twist at the end, is reportedly rated as the #1 sermon on Youtube! Whether this is true or not it has over 1.6 million views, is related to this post, and is worth giving a look. Pastor Jeff and Apologia Church felt compelled by God to make a stand for life that often times flies in the face of conventional Pro-Life tactics and strategy. Meaning primarily, EAN is focussed on equipping the local churches around our nation to bring the light of the gospel into conflict with the sin of abortion and do so without compromise in an age rife with it. EAN is not an organization but is rather more a movement helping to fuel God loving, Bible believing local church members and leadership to get in the abortion fight for the glory of God, the good of His people, and babies lives!

SO WHAT ARE THE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS?
EAN has three main areas of focus. The Church, the Media, and the Legislature. Primarily they want to help equip the body of Christ in all the various local churches across the nation with tools and training for the battle. An early fundraiser has made it possible for any church to contact Apologia and receive free abortion ministry resources! Even shipping is free! How awesome is that! Their first big event was the EAN conference that just finished in Tempe Arizona at Apologia Church where they had the three day conference for equipping saints, and even taking them into the field outside Planned Parenthood in the area. Not just learning but then doing hands on outreach! Any Pastor or church leader that wanted to go but couldn't afford it was flown out free! Praise God! A friend of mine was there and said there were roughly 200 people from the conference at Planned Parenthood Saturday morning! The church was in action! Equipping the Church through the local churches is primary and the media and legislature flow from that. On the Media front Apologia is already doing several things and media is growing and will continue to become more available for use by Christians to help n the fight against abortion where they interact with folks day to day. Legislatively the EAN web page already has links where you can send a form letter to all your state's government leaders calling on them to end abortion. It also has an area for personalization of the letter. I have used the form and have heard back from two of my state's leaders! There is so much going on but these are the three main things.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD ABOUT EAN!
Those who read my first post on this blog know that while I appreciate so much that AHA(Abolish Human Abortion)has done and is doing, I do not agree with their Church Repent Projects taking place with large, sometimes graphic and even accusatory banners, outside local churches. I so wish barriers between saints could come down and infighting would cease! I so love to see what EAN is doing because it is saying very much the same things that AHA is, even in calling the church to repent. Yet. EAN is not advocating the divisive activities AHA condones and promotes outside local churches with their Church Repent Projects. I am so encouraged by what I'm seeing from EAN already! It is awesome to see folks who have regularly spoken at AHA events and serving with AHA now joining in and speaking at EAN events and serving with folks there! I so long for the unity of the Church in this fight! There is much many could learn and grow from that AHA has linked from their various webpages and from individuals who minister as AHA Abolitionists. Yet, due to their activity outside local churches getting much coverage and stirring up much controversy, sadly most often the first and then often the only thing folks end up hearing about AHA, is that they might show up outside your church some Sunday with abortion signs. I say sadly because many AHA folks do not do this type of Church Repent Project at local churches. So some may write off AHA folks as having nothing profitable for you to learn or gain from them. Which of course is not the case. On the other hand, EAN has taken a stance to encourage and support local churches and encourage folks in the local churches and their Elders to work together to get out into the fight. They promote repentance and change being brought about in local churches, primarily through God working in local churches through His people that are there.

HERE'S SOME RESOURCES TO CHECK OUT!

I could say a lot more but honestly you'll be better off to just go see for yourself. Watch, learn, pray, and GO! The battle is raging and the Church does need to repent and get in the fight! EAN will help you! Sign up with them. The web page and resources are still being expanded. Kits are coming soon! But there is so much already available! Here's some easy ways to get equipped. Honestly this site, where you're reading this blog from has their first conference(a smaller one more in line with a broadcast)that Apologia did a while ago in six different video segments. This site has several other abortion ministry videos and resources as well. Just go to the "Videos" section here at www.savesoulsandbabies.com Also of course go and get signed up at www.endabortionnow.com Also if you want to see this most recent conference go "Like" Apologia Radio on Facebook so you can watch the archived messages. For even more videos, "Subscribe" to Apologia Radio on YouTube. So below this I'm going to embed the opening night of the EAN Conference where Pastor Jeff Durbin and Rev. Rusty Thomas preach. For info purposes Jeff preaches and has an intro message up until the 1 hour and 14 minute mark. Then there is a dead air break time until Rusty starts at the 1 hour and 33 minute mark.  Please folks, watch, pray, learn, and go! God bless you as you do!   
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The Good Fruit of AHA on National tv!

5/2/2017

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SO, I LIKE AHA?
     Maybe you're a little confused about where I stand on AHA. Especially after seeing the headline or hearing about my previous blog post regarding AHA's Church Repent Project and how some AHA folks carry it out at Local Churches.
     However, if you actually read the(VERY LONG!)post you should have remembered how I started when I said:

     "Let me next be clear on what this is not. This is not a bombastic screed against AHA or even the Church Repent Project as a whole. If you are looking to find an article from an AHA hater, emotionally blasting them and calling them a cult, you won’t find that here.
    In fact, much of the work being done now in the United States, to the glory of God in the realm of gospel based outreach to those seeking abortion, is because of, or as a result of the influence of AHA. I believe God has and is using them to wake up the church in America to our need to love God and our neighbor as ourselves.         If you want to see abortion abolished and criminalized here in America, you would be well served to examine much of the excellent information and resources available at: www.abolishhumanabortion.com
     If you have seen or heard of strong bills being proposed in your state seeking to abolish abortion completely in your state. Bills that would treat it as the crime of murder God tells us it is in the Bible. A crime the framers of our U.S. Constitution would undoubtedly agree with. You can be assured it was either started or strongly promoted by Bible believing Christians in AHA. 
    I applaud and join in on many of the same fronts as AHA. I do so because God has used folks in AHA to help disciple and bless me. Much of my personal repentance and growing abortion evangelism and interest in legislative activity is due to God working in me through AHA. AHA folks are on the frontline like few others in all realms of the fight against abortion.   

     No matter where you come out after reading this article, it is not my intention that you come out angry at or seeking to further distance yourself from AHA folks. I believe you may indeed be able to learn much from them.
      So, please pray for God to move on folks in AHA in this one area. I think they err here to the hurt of much of the good work they are doing for the glory of God, the good of His people and for the cause of lost souls and babies in danger of daily imminent death.         May God move to strengthen the work of AHA and bring unity in His Church through this, not more division."
 
 

SO WHAT'S THIS POST ABOUT
​     So, while I still disagree with Church Repent Projects at local churches in the manner they are performed as discussed in my post, I appreciate much of what AHA promotes and does. Especially Project Frontlines.
     I have taken part in quite a few of those projects and can tell you they are some of the most heated and confrontational yet Gospel saturated events you'll ever experience. If by God's grace you go.
    Yes, you too may get the news and/or the police to show up when you are there. You'll probably get threats and a lot of hate and irrational argumentation. We sure have. However, you probably won't get on Tucker Carslon. Sorry. We haven't either.
    But here's the thing. God in His grace and providential sovereign timing, chose these kids, this project, at this school, on the new Tucker Carlson show, at his new time, in the previous slot where Bill O'Reilly had the greatest ratings ever on cable television, to spread Gospel truth and expose sin and depravity for His glory and the good of His people!
     So, Christian what should you do now? I don't know. I don't know you or where you stand on the abortion issue. I pray you have or are ready to repent of an inactive stance on this abortion holocaust young Conner Haines speaks of in the video. I pray you are moved from a simple anti abortion belief to Bible based and gospel centered action. May we all be so moved all the more day by day.
     Maybe you've been part of the Pro-Life movement and have never investigated what it means to be an Abolitionist or how you and your church could be involved working to end abortion now. Here's two websites for those exact purposes:
abolishhumanabortion.com  and endabortionnow.com
     Do you know what the difference Conner is talking about when he spoke about not being Pro-Life but an Abolitionist? The issue is about the difference between unbiblical and admittedly non Christian, Pro-Life incrementalist, abortion regulation, and Bible based, Christian, immediatist, abortion abolition. If you'd like to hear a teaching I did on the issues you can find it here:
https://youtu.be/nzjr7bEEcGM      
     Or you can get a whole bunch of information through various videos of outreaches, Project Frontlines events, as well as some great teaching on several related subjects at:   savesoulsandbabies.com and click the "Videos" tab.  

WRAPPING UP
    So friends, if you've read this I hope you have been encouraged, convicted, and spurred on to love and good works for the glory of God, and the good of His people. May God bless you as you pray, study, plan, and then go out seeking to saves souls and babies!
     If for some reason you haven't seen the awesome video yet from Tucker Carlson's show please do so now here:


https://www.facebook.com/AbolishHumanAbortion/videos/1426120404120636/
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ARE AHA's CHURCH REPENT PROJECTS AT LOCAL CHURCHES BIBLICAL?

4/23/2017

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MY MAIN POINT RIGHT AWAY
     Let me start off by laying my cards on the table up front. I believe the answer to the question I ask in the title is a definite no. No, I do not believe Church Repent Projects at local churches, especially with big abortion themed signs, are biblically sound practices. I will labor by the grace of God to prove that with scripture and what I hope is sound reason.

WHAT I'M NOT SAYING
     Let me next be clear on what this is not. This is not a bombastic screed against AHA or even the Church Repent Project as a whole. If you are looking to find an article from an AHA hater, emotionally blasting them and calling them a cult, you won’t find that here.

THE GREAT GOOD AHA HAS DONE AND IS DOING 
    In fact, much of the work being done now in the United States, to the glory of God in the realm of gospel based outreach to those seeking abortion, is because of, or as a result of the influence of AHA. I believe God has and is using them to wake up the church in America to our need to love God and our neighbor as ourselves.         If you want to see abortion abolished and criminalized here in America, you would be well served to examine much of the excellent information and resources available at: www.abolishhumanabortion.com
     If you have seen or heard of strong bills being proposed in your state seeking to abolish abortion completely in your state. Bills that would treat it as the crime of murder God tells us it is in the Bible. A crime the framers of our U.S. Constitution would undoubtedly agree with. You can be assured it was either started or strongly promoted by Bible believing Christians in AHA. 
    I applaud and join in on many of the same fronts as AHA. I do so because God has used folks in AHA to help disciple and bless me. Much of my personal repentance and growing abortion evangelism and interest in legislative activity is due to God working in me through AHA. AHA folks are on the frontline like few others in all realms of the fight against abortion.   
     No matter where you come out after reading this article, it is not my intention that you come out angry at or seeking to further distance yourself from AHA folks. I believe you may indeed be able to learn much from them.
      So, please pray for God to move on folks in AHA in this one area. I think they err here to the hurt of much of the good work they are doing for the glory of God, the good of His people and for the cause of lost souls and babies in danger of daily imminent death.         May God move to strengthen the work of AHA and bring unity in His Church through this, not more division.  
 

DOES THE CHURCH NEED TO REPENT?
     I do firmly believe that The Church, especially here in the United States of America, has been sinfully apathetic in regards to the plight of our unborn neighbors we’ve been called to love as ourselves. Above all we’ve failed to seek to glorify God in all we do in this life and death ministry.
     I also believe the mass majority of the action, politically and in other social venues, from rallies and action groups to pregnancy centers to abortion clinics, has been polluted by unbiblical pragmatism and compromise for years.
     The Church as a whole in America, and probably the mass majority of individual local churches are in need of serious repentance. I do not excuse myself from that equation either. The Church needs much repentance.

     I am not here to defend apathetic churches. I am here to specifically critique the practice of Church Repent Projects at local churches. I will focus on showing that in no biblical area does AHA have a legitimate reason to do these projects. I am not here saying The Church in America has no need to repent.
     

WHAT A CHURCH REPENT PROJECT MIGHT LOOK LIKE    
     So let’s start with a basic explanation of what a Church Repent Project might look like at a local church.     
     AHA Abolitionists sometimes go to what they believe are true Christian churches with large signs speaking of, or even depicting fetal development, abortion, or even the dead babies after an abortion. Other signs may have slogans or scripture on them. They go there with the intent to call the local church to repent of abortion apathy and to join them in abortion evangelism and other action.

     They may or may not talk with the Elders at the local church they are exhorting prior to carrying out their exhortation. If AHA folks are spoken to by the local church Elders or their representatives and are asked to leave, in most cases they will not. For the most part they do not step onto the local church property so there is no legal grounds for law enforcement to intervene.
     During their time at the local church AHA folks will try to call folks over to talk to them about the issue. They may try to get local church folks to at least look at their signs or answer questions about them from afar. 
     This is just a very brief and cursory explanation of what you might see or encounter when AHA folks decide to call a local church to repentance.

ON TO THE CRITIQUE 
     I do not believe that scripture, in all the places it discusses New Testament Church structure and function, gives example of anyone except the Lord Himself or His Apostles, calling entire local churches to repent.
     I also see no explicit(or even implicit)teaching regarding professing Christians from other churches standing outside another church, calling for that church to corporately repent in any specific area of ministry that is lacking. 

     In the past I’ve looked at different AHA folks arguments and interacted with them through conversation and video as well as written correspondence. I recently even agreed to a friendly chat online to debate the issue as it were, with some AHA folks. That should take place soon.

ARTICLES AND RESOURCES I WILL DRAW FROM 
    While I’ve looked at various articles on top of the aforementioned interactions, I thought I’d revisit maybe the most thorough issue by issue apologetic for the Church Repent project at local churches. The articles are called, “(Church) Repent is not a Dirty Word” parts 1 and 2 by John Andrew Reasoner. You can find part 1 of John's article below, and find the link to part two in that page. 
https://kingdomandabolition.com/2017/03/04/church-repent-isnt-a-dirty-word-part-one/
     I will also reference AHA's Church Repent web page at www.churchrepent.com  
     Let me start off by saying overall I appreciated John's tone and that he goes in depth into the specific issue I’m addressing. He comes from originally a position very similar to mine now.
     I also want to say right off the bat here, that I am one of the folks he addresses in his articles. Like I mentioned above, I am someone who does not oppose the entire Church Repent Project. I simply stand opposed to the project when directed against local, confessing, biblically orthodox churches.

     I also agree that if my or anyone’s reasons were(and undoubtedly some people's sadly are)some of the arguments he lists, it would be pretty silly.
     Again, I hope to clearly lay out why I stand opposed to the project at local churches, in what I think is a biblically sound way.          Part of my doing that will be where I try to show some places where I don’t think John is either making his point, or maybe even just missing it.
     
Before I get started though let me quote John where I think I can agree totally with him:

“I commend any abolitionist who fervently disagrees with me on this issue yet refuses to allow that disagreement to bring hatred and division between us.”    

    Let me start off with another quote from John that I also agree with:

“At the foundation of any ethical call to repent addressed to believers (or anyone really) is the question of whether or not the Church as a whole, specific assemblies, or individuals are truly guilty. Is the call to repent ethically and judicially justifiable?”

PRIMARY ISSUES TO ADDRESS
     Now, John's article, the Church Repent page and my responses to them, are dealing primarily with calling individual local churches to repentance, and whether that specific call to repentance is biblically justifiable. Obviously I don’t think it is.
     I see this as primarily an ecclesiological issue. An ecclesiological issue dealing with several issues within that issue. Some primary ones are authority with responsibility, knowledge, and wisdom.

THE ISSUES OF AUTHORITY AND KNOWLEDGE
     I want to address the authority issue first. I think it is clear and John’s quote is clear, that if the call to repent isn’t justified, nobody has grounds to call any person or entity to repentance.
     Now, even if AHA has authority to call churches to repentance, they must then have knowledge with which to criticize the church’s wrong beliefs and actions.
     In short, if AHA has something to criticize a local church for, the burden of proof is on them. I will quote John again from his article:


“If the critics’ contention is with a specific means of communicating the ideas, as opposed to the ideas, it should be made clear that the onus is on the critics to show from Scripture why that tactic is unlawful.”  

     This quote went on to apply this to people who criticize the use of large signs in Church Repent projects. Yet, by this principle John promotes, it is AHA that must first prove that the local churches they exhort are using tactics to address abortion that are unlawful.
This of course goes again to knowledge.
     Do the AHA folks have specific knowledge of all churches they criticize and call to repent? So, first it would seem that AHA must at least gain some first hand knowledge from the church as to what their beliefs about abortion are. Also, before criticizing and calling for repentance shouldn’t they also have some details about what the church believes they should do in light of what they believe?

     Well actually they do give some insight there. This is directly from the www.churchrepent.com website:

“We have specific things in mind when we decide to exhort a local church. Here are the general criteria we use to decide which churches in our culture to exhort to love and good deeds regarding the sin of abortion apathy. In general, we would think it to be a good thing to exhort a church that:
1. Adopts a pro-life position but does not state this boldly or publicly.
2. Would check a “pro-life” box on a survey or ballot, support a pro-life option, but takes no action against abortion.
3. Discourages members in good standing from taking action against abortion under the covering and approval of Church leadership.
4. Encourages members to minimize the seriousness of the sin of abortion. (Example: Abortion is just another old sin like gossip or lying).
5. Does not practice any formal church discipline on unrepentant abortion rights advocate, abortion practitioners, and those who have chosen to murder their children by an abortion.
6. Possesses the financial ability and number of people able to seriously challenge the culture of death and is not otherwise engaged in works of pure and undefiled religion (James 1:27) which prohibit their taking up the cause of abolition themselves.
7. Brushes aside, rejects, or even opposes multiple attempts to bring the church to a greater awareness of the sin of abortion and their apathy in dealing with it to the extent that the word of God demands.”


     So, from looking at that list, we should expect that AHA folks have knowledge that the church they’re doing an exhortation of meet at least some of the criteria from this list. That would be reasonable right?
     Please note, I’m not agreeing or disagreeing that things on this list are not present in local churches or that they shouldn’t be addressed. I just want to be clear AHA believes these are essential to doing exhortations.

     So do all AHA folks do this consistently? From my personal conversations with AHA folks and from video I’ve seen, they do not.
     These are important issues and things we as Christians should never take for granted. Their very site says they should make these evaluations, but some AHA folks do not agree or act in accordance with this. It seems clear to me that the AHA folks organizing and placing guidelines should either change them or seek to encourage their adherence.
     I recognize they cannot make people follow them, but they can renounce any action outside of them as illegitimate projects. I have not seen this happen. It surely isn’t noted on their website.

     I also don’t see these guidelines as seemingly necessary from John’s point of view from his articles either.
     John does talk a lot about how to call people to repentance though. Let’s look at some of his statements.


“Although grand and general calls for the evangelical church to repent are good and necessary, they are also easy to ignore. Whether it is David Platt, Paul Washer, or Francis Schaeffer calling on the Church to repent, too often we never consider our own fellowships and our own lives. We think of someone else.”

     I don’t want to be the grammar police. I know I’m not an English major. My punctuation and grammar is often atrocious! But I do want to point out an important point muddled by the statement made here, “too often we never consider our own fellowships and our own lives. We think of someone else.”
     
I only point this out because muddle is not good when we’re dealing with issues like authority and knowledge. This statement either means general calls for repentance too often fail to bring it about. Or it means they never bring it about.
     The sentence fragment, “too often we never” conveys two opposing views. “Too often” and “never”. Both are judgment calls. If it is “too often”, how much is that? If it is “never”, then he surely can’t quantify that. I’ll believe he means the unquantified “too often”. Which means he’s made an unquantified and vague claim about a practice he says provides the same kind of results.
     Now here John gets pretty specific about specificity(I just thought it would be fun to say that!).

“Ambiguity is met with the shrugging off of responsibility. Specificity confronts. Specificity is difficult to dodge. You can think of this as a sort of spiritual diffusion of responsibility. A diffusion of responsibility is a sociopsychological phenomenon wherein individuals fail to take responsibility because of a perception that others will take responsibility for them. When all of Christendom receives an exhortation, it becomes psychologically easy for Christians to believe that the extortion was meant for others.”  

    This line of thought lines up with the Church Repent website and the logic of making knowledge claims, criticism, and calls to repentance, with a specific foundation.
     But does this logic hold through John's articles? I argue that it does not. I believe he just puts all the specifics together to make the same point that all are guilty. He even just says that.
     Which of course derails the need for knowledge of individual churches beliefs and activities prior to exhorting them. I mean if you can know something for sure by assuming it, just assume, say you know it's true, and get to exhorting! Look here at these two quotes to see what I'm getting at.


“Although the American Church bears a weight of responsibility, and therefore, guilt for the widespread sin and bloodshed in our communities, it is good to say that Heritage Grace Community Church is guilty. It is good to say that Grace Community Church is guilty. Trinity Baptist is guilty. Mercy Seat Christian Church is guilty. Christ Church is guilty. Apologia Church is guilty. Door of Hope is guilty. WE are guilty.”

“I call on the Church to repent. I call on your local assembly to repent. I call on YOU to repent. Because I love you.”

     As you read these quotes, in the end is anyone left out? In listing Apologia Church who has started the big anti abortion campaign called "End Abortion Now"(which I also recommend checking out and supporting at www.endabortionnow.com) and even John's own church, Door of Hope, is he not making the case that every single church could be on this list regardless of their beliefs and activities regarding abortion?
     Does this not just culminate into another general, Church wide call to repentance just using more words?
     You see, it is necessary really to lump everyone together if you feel every church is worthy of criticism and in need of a call to repentance.
     
Even more important is that John makes truth claims that neither he, nor any other AHA person I can find backs up with the scriptural authority to do so. He says:

 “It is good to say that Grace Community Church(and any other church)is guilty….”

     As an aside, do we see that type of language directed by just any professing Christian to local churches in the Bible? Or even in Church history? Just because they are churches? I don't think so. Later on in this article I'll get to what the Bible does show us(Oh it's a WDJD moment! Ahh Ray Comfort memories!).
     
Now it is John’s and other AHA folks assertion that it is “good” to say that specific churches are “guilty” of all the things their websites seven point list details.
          Again, I will assert that without authority to do so, it is not good. Even if the proper level of knowledge is obtained. But despite guidelines their own page sets up, testimony from AHA folks who do otherwise, and John’s paper saying any church is good to call guilty, I posit AHA believes specific knowledge is at best preferred, but not necessary.
     Now, I plan to flesh out the authority issue. Again this issue is key. Everything stands or falls on authority. If you don’t have authority you have no say.
      A while back my friend and I were at Planned Parenthood ministering when a young man attacked my friend and tried to rip his amp off him. I had a recent shoulder surgery and couldn’t safely use my other hand to grab him.
     So I was tugging him off my friend with one arm and wasn’t getting anywhere. I eventually told him I was law enforcement. This caused him to immediately slack his tugging on my friend. He then told me he wanted to see ID. I told him if he would hold still I would get it for him. When I let him go he fell over and as I was reaching for my ID he ran away.
     Just assertion of my authority brought change. But it wasn’t until I was presenting the sign of authority that he decided he was surely in the wrong. Proof of authority is important.
     It is not a false appeal to authority for an Elder of a local church to ask an AHA Abolitionist what scriptural authority they have to call their local church, under the care of biblical Elders to repentance? In fact it is perfectly reasonable.

SO LET'S GET INTO THE BIBLE! 
     So where do we find an understanding about who has authority to call a church to repent? Obviously Jesus does. He’s the Head of the church. He’s the Chief Shepherd. His word makes abundantly clear He has all authority in heaven and on earth.
     Now as Protestants we reject the papacy. So, does scripture tell us anyone else has special authority over the Church universal? Yes, the Apostles did. The New Testament we get primarily from Apostolic writing, inspired by God, makes that clear. They also exercised authority over individual and groups of churches. However, I personally believe there are no more Apostles. I assume you agree.
     If not and you claim Apostolic or some other form of Prophetic authority from God, we have other big issues to address. I will continue on the assumption that that is not the case with at least most folks doing AHA Church Repent Projects. 

     So, is there anyone else that has authority for local churches prescribed by God through His word? I believe there is. The local church Elders.
     Christ is the head of the Church Universal(Eph. 5:23). In His grace He has set up little “heads” in local churches for their good. In 1 Cor. 11-14 Paul has a lot to say about orderly function of local churches. Look here at 1 Cor. 12:21-26:

     “The eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,  and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty, which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body,giving greater honor to the part that lacked it, that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.”  

     Now I believe this text is a both/and text. Meaning it holds truth for the universal and local church. But, it is being primarily shared in this context for local churches to learn how they are to minister.            Obviously Christ, The Head of the Church Universal would not say He had no need of a foot. It goes without saying His very attributes make clear He needs no other part of His body. We are there grafted in by grace and love, not His needing us.
     Yet, local “heads” are needed for local church bodies. Even though little "heads" can be confused, get "swollen", or even be flat out wrong, and thus need reminding of the necessity of other parts of the body they have in their care. Placed under them by The Head, Jesus Christ, for mutual correction and upbuilding in love.

     In 2 Timothy 4:1-2 Paul commands young Elder Timothy:

     “I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.”

     This is clearly by context speaking of Timothy doing this with Christians. Christians in a local Church or even Churches He leads.
     And how is it Elder’s are to lead? As commanded by Christ. In John 21:15-17, Jesus tells Peter what He wants him to do:


     ““Feed my lambs.”...“Tend my sheep”...“Feed my sheep”.

     In short, Jesus wanted Peter to shepherd His sheep. Peter no doubt reflected on this when he exhorted fellow Elders.

     “So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a partaker in the glory that is going to be revealed: shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock. And when the chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory.” 1 Pet. 5:1-4

      Christ is the authoritative Head over the Universal Church and every local church, and cares for us as the loving and willing Chief Shepherd. Scripture clearly teaches us that there are also little heads and little shepherds. These are what we commonly call Elders and/or Pastors. They have authority from God and a responsibility to God to lead His people and to care for them.
     We could go over lots more scripture, and will later, but I think for now we have a great picture of the clear authority of Elders in the local church.
     If you need to re read the passages above to see what they are responsible to do, please do. It is no insignificant task.
     Yet, while we’ve looked at the authority they have and the responsibility they have to do these things, we have not looked closely at what that responsibility to God entails. Like Uncle Ben said:
“With great power comes great responsibility!” - Ben Parker
     But seriously, what great power there is in the Word of God! Untold masses of people have been deceived(albeit willfully) and led away into cults and false teaching from religious hacks and charlatans!
     Matthew chapter seven and Jude may be the most frightful anywhere in the Bible! Woe to false prophets, false teachers, and their followers!

     However, it is not just a warning for the heretics. All who wear the mantle of Bible teacher must be diligent to teach rightly as they will face stricter judgment. How much more the Elder whose primary ministry is one of prayer, preaching, and teaching the word(James 3:1, Acts 6:4)?
     Peter, as we saw above, spoke to authority and a reward for being a good under shepherd. Yet the writer of Hebrews adds solemn warning for Elders in the church.


     “Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.” Heb. 13:17

     Friends, do you feel the weight of that? Elders have to give an account to God not only for themselves, but also for the flock in their care!
     On top of that they are more open to public rebuke than the rest of the flock due to their position as teachers who lead by what they teach from God’s word. Even Peter himself when his actions were teaching contra what he had previously taught about the gentiles.
     Paul rebuked him publicly(Gal. 2:11)! 
Paul makes it clear that this was not an isolated, inter Apostolic issue only either. If you teach publicly you are open to, and should expect, public rebuke when you teach wrongly. He instructs the young Elder Timothy on how all Elders are to receive special treatment, both positive and negative.

     “Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.” Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.” 1 Tim. 5:17-20     
 
     When Elders rule well double honor is due. Especially if they labor in preaching and teaching. Neither an Elder or any member of a local church(let alone a professing Christian from the outside who may know little or nothing about them) should receive or make slanderous charges against an Elder without multiple witnesses.          But when an Elder persists in sinful activity, He is to be rebuked openly, in such a way that other Elders will be fearful to do likewise! 
     That it is spoken of as being done in front of all, lends credence to the idea that it is done in front of all present at a local church. Obviously not in front of the entire Church Universal.
     Now, please notice what we've seen about the realms of authority and responsibility regarding Elders in a local church. Knowledge of the Elders of their flock and likewise the knowledge of their flock of their Elders, is essential to proper function of the local body of Christ.
     I believe it is very clear that the special relationship of authority with responsibility, coupled with knowledge of the parties involved, is essential to orderly local church issues being addressed across the board. Maybe none more so than in exhorting the church to repent of certain areas of shortfall or outright sin.     
     Now, can I give you an example of a biblical call to repentance of a local church that embodies these elements of authority and knowledge? Yes. A perfect example at that.
     Let’s look at when Christ speaks to His churches. I will post all of Revelation chapters two and three so that you can see what Christ says to all seven of the churches he speaks to.


     2:1.“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: ‘The words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks among the seven golden lampstands.
2 “‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not,and found them to be false. 3 I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for my name's sake, and you have not grown weary. 4 But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. 5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent. 6 Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life,which is in the paradise of God.’
8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.
9 “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison,that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.’
12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: ‘The words of him who has the sharp two-edged sword.
13 “‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. 14 But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practicesexual immorality. 15 So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, with a new name written on the stone that no one knows except the one who receives it.’
18 “And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: ‘The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze.
19 “‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. 20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works. 24 But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. 25 Only hold fast what you have until I come.26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
     3:1. “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: ‘The words of him who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars.
“‘I know your works. You have the reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2 Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God. 3 Remember, then, what you received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you. 4 Yet you have still a few names in Sardis, people who have not soiled their garments, and they will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. vI will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: ‘The words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, who shuts and no one opens.
8 “‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that dI have loved you. 10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown. 12 The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name. 13 He who has an ear,let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’  14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. 17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. 21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

     Now, obviously we could get into a huge study on all that Christ deals with in speaking to these seven churches. However, we will keep our focus here narrow.
     Notice this key issue right from the start. Even when Christ chose to speak to individual churches, He chose to speak through His Apostle and Elders!(While there may be some argument a very common belief is that the "angels" Jesus directs John to deliver the message to, are the Elders at these churches. History tells us John in fact was an overseer of all these churches.) 
     When Christ speaks to His churches it is with absolute authority and perfect knowledge! The first two verses of chapter two establish this without fail.
     As you read, see how he has tailored messages for each and every church. Just a cursory glance tells us this general information.

     Four of the seven churches He has both praise and exhortation to repentance for. Two of the churches He has nothing but praise and encouragement for. Finally one he has nothing but rebuke and strong warning for. Each individual church received the tailor made message God wanted them to have.
     Now, we've examined the role of the Elders in their local church. We've seen their role as little heads appointed by Christ. We've also seen their role as under shepherds. Both as shadows and a reflection of Christ to their local church.
     While Christ has perfect knowledge and complete authority, Elders have incomplete but special knowledge of the flock in their care and authority to teach and lead by their firm grasp and adherence to God’s authoritative Word.

     Now, let’s contrast that with the position of the AHA abolitionist(s) who’ve come to a local church to call them to repentance of their abortion apathy. We don’t even have to ask if they have knowledge like Christ. Yet we can be pretty sure they do not even have knowledge of a visitor at that church, let alone a member, and certainly not of an Elder there.
     Just like an Elder asking for their authority so it is reasonable for the Elder to ask them, what knowledge do you have about this church that makes you think any criticism you have is any more than speculation or heresay?

     But let’s go back one more time to the all important question of authority. The authority of the Elders there are derived through God placing them in authority over and in responsibility to the flock there and ultimately to Himself.
     Above that, it is authority infused with knowledge of the flock and love. They are not there by compulsion or lording over their authority. They wield authority in righteous fear of the God who holds them to a higher level of accountability to Him, due to their role as primary teachers of God's word.

     Here’s a question to think on too. Do you think that there was really no sin in the two churches who received no call to repent from Jesus? I don’t think anyone reading this subscribes to the false teaching of sinless perfectionism. So, undoubtedly Jesus could easily have called them to repentance for any number of things.
     Undoubtedly child sacrifice and even abortion was taking place at that time in their culture. Yet, Jesus said nothing of it.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
     So where does that leave you as the reader? Who has the authority to call local churches to repentance? On one hand it seems you have clear biblical foundation for Jesus, Apostles, and Elders of local churches having authority to call them to repentance. Elders doing so based on special authority with responsibility from God through His Word, and working knowledge of their flock.
     On the other hand you have AHA abolitionists whose stance is: “It’s good to call (insert local church name here) to repent.” They do it based on a biblical authority I don’t see, and couldn't see as reasonable even if they did try to cobble one together. Because if your authority leads you to call specific churches to repentance without knowledge, or responsibility to them or more so to God, then I can’t see how that authority could be biblical.      
     So, do I think there is a biblical way to go about reaching people at local churches in line with the Church Repent Project? Of course!
     John even gives some great ideas(Minus of course using big signs and calling local churches to repentance):


“I don’t believe using signs is always the best tactic. They can be helpful, but they can also be hurtful. Very often sending an email or writing a letter is a better option. Perhaps just offering to buy an elder a coffee or a beer (if he’s Presbyterian or Lutheran) would be more effective. Remember that holding signs is just one tactic out of many and that tactics should be employed with wisdom and forethought.”

    Those other ideas are good ideas. I also think standing with signs on a road where possibly several church members from several churches will pass you is a great idea too. Going to Christian concerts or festivals are other great places you could go. There are lots of options. These options are sound because they don’t have you outside a specific church, unbiblically calling a whole church, under biblical Elders, to repentance.
    Even if it is an email or sit down meal or coffee or beer, I can only assume there will be some questioning and desire for two way communication. Those scenarios won’t be where the AHA abolitionist says to the Elder or even church member: “I’ve asked you here today so I can tell you you need to repent of abortion apathy!” These instead are a time of fellowship with a fellow saint or saints and fact gathering meetings to see if a call to repentance is even necessary.
     If it is necessary a believer can of course always call a fellow believer to repent of admitted sin or error. If through conversation the AHA Abolitionist hears confession from an Elder that he believes His church is sinfully apathetic towards abortion, or in anyway needs to improve in the area, counsel from a well informed and loving brother or sister from AHA is awesome! Encouragement and even offers to help that Elder or Elders disciple that local church in that area is great. That's the Universal Body of Christ working together, building each other up in love.
     But even if the Elder or Elders reject any wisdom the AHA Abolitionist gives, that Abolitionist still has no authority to then call that entire church to repentance against the wishes of the leadership God has placed there. 

ONE MORE IMPORTANT WORD 
     Now a key word John mentions here is another one I mentioned earlier and cannot be dismissed. That word is wisdom. Even if AHA had the authority and the knowledge to do these projects at local churches we have to ask a key question. Would it be wise?
     Let’s say my wife and I drive eight hours to reach a realtor in a big city, with all kinds of people swarming around us to put a ten thousand dollar cash down payment on a new house. Then let’s say that while we’re surrounded by people(some maybe a little shady looking) I say in a none too quiet voice, “Hey honey, you didn’t forget to put the ten thousand cash in your purse before we left home did you?”.
     Now, the question is an important one. But I think it goes without saying that that wouldn’t be the wisest thing to say at that time and in that place.
     So, let’s just say for arguments sake that John and AHA are right, and doing local Church Repent projects, big signs and all is simply an issue of personal preference. An optional tactic to try to gain help from fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Does it sit well with the conscience of the one planning to do the project? How about those at the church the project is exhorting?
     Well, the Bible speaks to how we should act towards other brothers and sisters when there is conflict on practices that are not necessarily sinful, but can become such when they violate our conscience. In other words, our personally held stances on right and wrong. 

     In Romans fourteen, Paul is dealing with matters of liberty with Christians and how they should manage those liberties in the body of Christ.

     “Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God;  for it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding. Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.” Romans 14:10-23

     Now Paul is speaking here specifically to days of worship and food issues that could cause a brother or sister to stumble in the Lord, due to a matter of conscience.
     Now when you read this you see it is no small matter to use your liberty. Even in doing good things, if doing them could hurt, or Paul even says, “destroy” someone!

     Now let me take and combine some key thoughts from the preceding verses on the issues here that are really important.

     “Why do you pass judgment on your brother?...For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God;  for it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. For if your brother is grieved by…(what you do), you are no longer walking in love…. Do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil….For the kingdom of God is...righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding….Do not...destroy the work of God….Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble... It is good not to...do anything that causes your brother to stumble. The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves.”

     There is so much blessing throughout these verses for those who seek to deal peaceably, without stumbling brothers and sisters over secondary issues of conscience! Let me combine two last sentences to drive an important point home.

     “So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil.” and “Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves.”

     This is saying that we must not use our liberties to do good things that could stumble or even destroy a fellow saint. Because then we’ll need not bring ourselves into judgment for the harm we caused others with those liberties.
     So, even under the criteria AHA holds for calling whole churches to repentance, especially with big signs, we have to ask the question. Is it wise?
     Well to answer that it would seem all we need to do is examine what fruit Church Repent Projects have produced. What is the overwhelming response from local churches AHA claims not to be protesting, but genuinely wanting the help of said fellowships in the fight against the abortion holocaust we’re facing?
     The simple fact is that if it was yielding the blessings that Paul tells us should come from acting rightly as it pertains to matters of conscience, John’s articles, this paper, and countless other blog posts, videos, and just about every other form of communication known to man wouldn’t be out there as testimony to being for or against the practice.
     I think I am safe in saying that this optional tactic, regarding a non essential, secondary doctrinal issue, is the most inflammatory and divisive issue as it pertains to the Church, that AHA holds to.        Fires continue to burn and be stoked every time another project takes place. AHA folks will admit this is true. Those who are upset with them, some to the point of being ridiculous and even sinful, almost universally point to the Church Repent Project as the foundation, if not the entirety of their problem with AHA.
     Now, I take for granted that AHA is being truthful when they say they are not questioning the salvation of the biblically orthodox churches they are exhorting. I believe that indeed they really want those folks at those churches to join them in the fight as brothers and sisters in Christ. 
     Which leads me to ask: Why keep using a tactic you say is for drawing, that time and time again repels instead? It just doesn't make sense in any way!
     Now, I understand if this is a primary doctrine, like the gospel and other essential doctrines. We expect the lost to be driven away from that if the Lord isn't drawing them.
     Yet, we also recognize that if a tactic is the issue repelling people, we drop it. We never want to add unnecessary offense in any ministry we do. Especially when we are ministering to and seeking help in ministry from fellow saints! Look at what the Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 6:3-10:


     "We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed. But in all things we commend ourselves as ministers of God: in much patience, in tribulations, in needs, in distresses, in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in sleeplessness, in fastings; by purity, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Spirit, by sincere love, by the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true; as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things."

     My AHA brothers and sisters, do you exemplify this passage during Church Repent Projects at local churches?
     Remember once again friends. This is not a primary theology issue. This is not even a secondary one. This is an optional tactic regarding a secondary issue!
     Yet, due to the stumbling and offense this tactic causes, you often hinder Christians supporting and even joining you. Joining you in carrying out the two great commandments to love God and our neighbor and the great commission of gospel proclamation and discipleship!
     Please my friends, don't be blinded by stubborn pride! Take it from someone who has pulled forests from his eyeballs! Please allow me to try to help you get this splinter out of many of AHA's folks collective eyeballs, that otherwise see so clearly the abortion holocaust and the gospel centered answers to it! 

     Friends, let's look at another prescriptive quote from John.

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Whenever you place your favored form of church polity, for example, above the unity of believers in Christ, what you are necessarily saying is that your ecclesiastical structures are more vital than Christ Himself. This is true of any non-essential doctrine. I am not saying that you must accept everything as equally true or even to not, at times, stress the importance of your secondary doctrine, but whenever you make an enemy of anyone who has a different nuance on a peripheral issue then that is a clear sign of making a good and important thing into an idol. We are to have unity in Christ. Don’t replace Christ with your pet doctrine, lest your pet doctrine becomes an idol in your heart."

    
I really couldn't say it any better than this. The question is will people see this truth, from both sides?
     As I said earlier, I believe John has heard some pretty silly complaints against Church Repent Projects at local churches. Some indeed may have made idols of secondary and non essential doctrines, or misapplied even relevant scripture. Some may even idolize their church or Elders.
     But shouldn't AHA Abolitionists search their hearts and minds to see if their relentless support of Church Repent Projects against local churches, admittedly just one practice, one method of reaching fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, not even a doctrine, could have possibly become an idol to them?
     Could it come from being exasperated at the apathy of the local church? Could it be they've been burned by local churches and have a legitimate grievance? Could some be there as an act of defiance just because their ecclesiological stance against institutional local churches is so strong? Like John said again so well in another quote:

"When it comes to fighting a holocaust with the power of the Gospel, we ought to unite according to Christology, not ecclesiology and not tactics. Theology matters. How much Theology matters also matters. We should consider first things first. Above all other things, be for Christ and His Kingdom."

  
  Friends, on both sides of this argument please remember this. For the most part, neither side is calling the other unsaved. We are arguing over a secondary, ecclesiological issue. In fact, merely a tactic being promoted from one side and opposed from another. But remember, these are two factions in one camp.                Please, don't hate me for mentioning Mark Driscoll, but this really is, at the very worst a state versus state squabble. We are still part of a united country. Better yet of course, universally we are all members together in the eternal body of Christ! 
     John Calvin rightly says,
“Man's nature, so to speak, is a perpetual factory of idols.”
     
Has this issue become an idol for you? Have you let this issue become a driving and separating force between brothers and sisters in Christ? I know it has caused a huge negative divide almost everywhere it goes. I am sure there is blame on both sides for it. I tell you the truth friends, I so long to see that divide eliminated!
     Sadly I do not see any chance of that happening until my AHA brothers and sisters stop these projects. Even more so, repenting of them. That will be an act of true wisdom in humility. An act that God may then use to send a more united Universal Church into battle against this abortion holocaust!      

     Please God, bring an end to these projects! Please bring an end to hostilities among your people on this issue! Please do all this and more than we can all ever ask or think! Please do it that You may be glorified, Your people's good furthered, and that lost souls, and babies lives may be saved! Amen.
  
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